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When it comes to disciplining unruly students, how does your school stack up? Classroom management can be a daily distraction for teachers, and many schools struggle to impose consequences that are effective without being overly punitive. Yet disagreements persist on the best way to correct bad behavior, from time-outs to meetings with parents to suspensions. Some schools try to keep penalties to a minimum, while schools in twenty-two states permit corporal punishment, including spanking and paddling. Does your school have workable, consistent methods to respond to negative behavior? We want to know!

Does your school effectively discipline misbehaving students?

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You be the judge: I have 5

You be the judge:

I have 5 years of experience working with Alternative Education in a very poor urban setting.
I have 5 years of experience working with Adult Education which is a step up from alternative education.
I now face a population of 7th and 8th graders that make the above mentioned clients look like alter boys. Since September we have had three teachers resign and one just collapsed this past Friday.
What’s wrong with this place?????????????



i dont believe that my

i dont believe that my school (middleton high) dose a good job. many students fight but just get suspended for 5-10 days. its not effective because when they return they are back at it again.



School Discipline Policy

At our middle school we have a system in place where behavior issues are dealt with in a fair and consistent manner. However, we still employ OSS (out-of-school suspension) as a deterrent to gross misbehavior. I've become increasingly convinced that exclusion from school as a punishment is simply not an effective strategy to develop positive behavior in children. In fact, many students (mostly boys) are delighted with the vacation from the heinous duty of school.

I've been studying an alternative model,Restorative Justice, a program which has evolved out of the juvenile justice system. The method is founded on the principle that those who demonstrate anti-social behaviors must, by all rights, make just amends for their offense in order for 'justice' to be 'restored' for the common good. The program involves multi-tiered intervention involving teachers, guidance counselors, family members, even friends whereby the offender learns (with guidance and support) why h/her behavior was wrong and how to make it right AND a complementary component that supports the victim.

This concept intrigues me in its student-centered approach. Have any of you had experience with this model and could offer some resources/strategies for implementation at the school level?



Discipline

Out of school suspension is a short term fix and does not help the at risk student in the long term. I am on a school board as well as an educator and we have eliminated out of school suspensions. We now have an in-school resource center which combines academics, counseling and parenting support for the student/family while he/she "serves" out the infraction. This is working much better! And yes, an element of restorative justice is part of the program. The key is educating the teachers to effectively manage and deal with troubled students. Sending kids to the office for forgetting materials, or making an inappropriate comment here and there does more harm than good. Unfortunately some teachers are stuck in old habits and policies that have not kept up with societal changes.



Grade 6 behaviour: what do i do?

hi all, im a uni student doing my degree in teaching. i was at my project partnership school and was takin 14 grade 6 students teaching them soccer. they wanted to play a game so i allowed it. One boy in particular after 20 minutes of playing started teasing other players calling them 'four eyes, your ugly and you can't play soccer'. i thought this was a basic grade 6 bullying technique so i had the child stand next to me as his punishment. but after 5 minutes of standing next to me he began to get bored so i allowed him to be the umpire and help me out. this was positive due to the child explaining to other students what they were doing wrong and making sure he was heard when there was contact, the ball went out etc. So my question is what discplinary actions would have been best suited/needed for this child. At the end of the lesson, he came up to me and apologised so it makes me wonder what consequences should i have used for his behaviour.
does sitting children down in time out or not letting them play the sport, does this help their behaviour/attitude and if so why do you think it does. Thank you



There are many management

There are many management tools for classrooms. Discipline does not mean punishment. You saw this student behaving poorly and you pulled him out to stop the behavior. That's a good thing. Then you thought about it and did just the right thing for this student by giving him a role in the class process. This doesn't always work, but when it does, its beautiful. Next time, I bet you will come to this strategy sooner. Giving yourself time to assess the situation is a good thing. Some veteran teachers seem to be able to react to these situations instinctively, but, believe me, it is just experience.



Disciplining Bullies

Natalie, what you did clearly seems to have worked, so in this case, it was the right thing to do. What was right about it? You acted promptly, you separated bully and victims, and you treated the child with respect. That the child apologized to you shows he reflected on his behavior. What might have happened differently? Schools need a clear policy that all staff members follow when bullying takes place. It's something that should be communicated to everyone in the building and held to very closely. A message needs to be sent loud and clear and consistently that bullying is not tolerated in this school and that the adults in the school will make sure students are safe. That said, the one thing that could have improved the outcome of what you did, and something that should be part of every response to bullying, is retribution. That is, the boy should not only have apologized to you, but also to all those children that he mistreated. Some feel that bullies should have go even farther, and "overcorrect" to compensate those they victimized. It's not an easy situation at all, and you certainly can look back and feel positively about how you responded.

Maurie Elias
Director, Rutgers Social-Emotional Learning Lab
Spiral Notebook blogger (Edutopia.org)



School-wide positive discipline program

Our school-wide discipline program involves recognizing positive behaviors much more than the negative ones. However, we do have a plan in place and the students know exactly what will happen when a referral is written. The students know that the administrator will open the student handbook, look up the offense and follow the handbook. They know that there is no arbitrary punishment that everything is set out in writing. This has been working in our school for the past year and referrals are down over 50% from years past.



Would you be able to e-mail

Would you be able to e-mail me a copy of your discipline plan?



Discipline

Parents have been given the open door to our schools. While I do applaud parental invovlement, part of that is the core of why students misbehave. How so??

Firstly children reflect their parents actions, therefore if the parents are disrespectful the children will follow.

Second, if the child does wrong and Admin makes a call to home about it, most of the time the parent feels that the Admin is being unjust to their child and the student gets off with nothing more than a slap on the wrist.

Thirdly, Administration has no desire to deal with the parents being annoyed therefore they allow the students to do whatever they want to do, to such a degree that they themselves allow students to call them by thier first name.

We teach by design. Administration is scared or too lazy to deal with the parents so the kids get away with everything.

Wake up call to Admin in our schools, DO YOUR JOBS and support the teachers and stop having youre tail between your legs with the parents.

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