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What are the top 5 barriers for public schools to perform like successful charter schools?

dbixby001 Citizen who understands Education is the most important piece in society.

I often here that charter schools have a lot of advantages over public schools and "that won't work here". What do you consider the top 5 barriers for public schools to perform like successful charter schools?

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Lifelong Learners and Strategic Test Takers--Students as both?

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Hi Peter,

Your closing comment about our primary objective as teachers: creating learners versus increasing test scores got me thinking. Can't we increase test scores *and* successfully lead students as lifelong learners?

Read blogger Ben Johnson's take on this in his latest Edutopia post, A Different Perspective: Teaching to the Test.

Thanks, and Happy Summer to you all!

Still looking for a way to use my credential in secondary math & science

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I think I've read interesting statistics somewhere (maybe here on Edutopia) that if you teach kids to learn and think, they actually do better on tests.
Certainly a student who understands concepts and enjoys a subject will do better. (Back in my day, my first encouter with multiple choice tests that I recall was taking the SATs - which I did well in. I did drill the types of questions, vocabulary things and all, but mostly I figured things out.
When I took the California Basic Education Skills Test to become a teacher (at a very mature age) I had more trouble with the ELA practice book, because I selected the wrong answer, which was right in my opinion, but I did well on the actual test.
Drill only works if kids are motivated. Period.

Still looking for a way to use my credential in secondary math & science

I think I've read interesting

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I think I've read interesting statistics somewhere (maybe here on Edutopia) that if you teach kids to learn and think, they actually do better on tests.
Certainly a student who understands concepts and enjoys a subject will do better. (Back in my day, my first encouter with multiple choice tests that I recall was taking the SATs - which I did well in. I did drill the types of questions, vocabulary things and all, but mostly I figured things out.
When I took the California Basic Education Skills Test to become a teacher (at a very mature age) I had more trouble with the ELA practice book, because I selected the wrong answer, which was right in my opinion, but I did well on the actual test.
Drill only works if kids are motivated. Period.

Retired teacher and administrator

Ben - I taught AP Calc and

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Ben - I taught AP Calc and Stats. I have no problem with those kinds of test as measuring real learning. Or even measuring how i taught. And there are others. My issue is with numerous off the shelf multiple choice tests states and districts use the measure "progress". I know a little about test development and a little more about good mathematics. I know that these tests in the earlier grades do not measure the critical, deep thinking a kid needs for AP,nmuch less lifelong learning. These tests are worse than no test at all; among other things, they give a false sense of doing something.

Retired teacher and administrator

Wow. Three posts at a time!

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Wow. Three posts at a time!

Montessori 4-6th grade teacher

Testing and Lifelong Learning

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My experience supports the assertion that nurturing lifelong learners yields high levels of scholarship (as tested using standardized testing protocols). It also seems to cultivate creativity, leadership, and divergent thinking.

MK

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