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Frustrations with Online Learning

Frustrations with Online Learning

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I thought we should have a discussion forum where we can discuss things that really frustrate us with online learning. Ideally, this would be a constructive discussion, with contributors suggesting solutions for our frustrations. So, here goes my biggest frustration: Assessment and Marking. How can we take the paper out of the online learning process? I can get students to learn and complete work online. I can get them to submit work online. But when it comes to marking the work and giving feedback, I am yet to find a system that is as quick and as efficient - as well as meaningful - as simply writing comments on a printout of student work. I've tried editing via word processing, but that is cumbersome. I've tried using a digital pen, but that lacked the precision I needed. So, any ideas out there?

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pat's picture
pat
Inclusion Teacher, NJ

My only frustration - my District will not recognize these courses towards a degree!

Kim's picture

Pat - I'm sure its only a matter of time before they will. Perhaps more time than you would like. However, online learning isn't going away, so the district can either join the parade or watch it go by!

Kim's picture

Pat - I'm sure its only a matter of time before they will. Perhaps more time than you would like. However, online learning isn't going away, so the district can either join the parade or watch it go by!

Maureen Garrett's picture

Pat,
Online learning costs a lot. Thankfully, we have a great grant writer that got us into the online learning arena. Our district initially offered only credit recovery in online classes, but this summer we are offering new credits in English, math and science. We have registered 70+ students at this point. We hope that, when grant money is no longer available, the district will recognize that it is important to fund these classes without the grants.

Keith Heggart's picture
Keith Heggart
High School Teacher from Sydney, Australia
Facilitator

[quote]I give most of my feedback to students through our LMS. We're using Angel Learning at my college. However, sometimes I want to give feedback that is much richer so I use a free sofware called Jing and make a very quick video of me looking at their submitted work. It takes a .swf video of my screen and records voice over it. It is actually extremely simple to use. I then upload the file to Screencast and then share the link with the student. Sometimes these brief videos are useful for other students, so I can repurpose them.[/quote]

Hi Letty,
Can you tell us a little bit more about Angel Learning, and how you have found it?
Keith.

Keith Heggart's picture
Keith Heggart
High School Teacher from Sydney, Australia
Facilitator

[quote]Pat,

Online learning costs a lot. Thankfully, we have a great grant writer that got us into the online learning arena. Our district initially offered only credit recovery in online classes, but this summer we are offering new credits in English, math and science. We have registered 70+ students at this point. We hope that, when grant money is no longer available, the district will recognize that it is important to fund these classes without the grants.[/quote]

Hi Maureen,
It would be great to hear more about how this is going, as it progresses. Can you give us some updates, where you discuss what parts of your online learning trial have worked well, as well as others that need more development?

Keith.

Anita Harris's picture
Anita Harris
Instructional Technology Specialist for Sussex County Public Schools

Have you considered using Google Docs? You could create a quiz or test using Google Forms; have the students respond whether to multiple-choice, short answer or whatever; then add comments to each students answers within the spreadsheet where all the answers are stored; copy and paste each student's responses with your comments into a spreadsheet created just for assessment for that student and voila! Now you have one document to track each student's progress plus being able to add your comments and you have the overall class spreadsheet to show overall scores and comments.

Keith Heggart's picture
Keith Heggart
High School Teacher from Sydney, Australia
Facilitator

Hi Anita,
That sounds like a great idea! Do you have like an instructional demo or video showing how you did it?
Keith.

Anita Harris's picture
Anita Harris
Instructional Technology Specialist for Sussex County Public Schools

Hi Keith,
I haven't created what I call 'Quick Start Guides' but may do this over the summer. Meanwhile, I will provide you some links to help get your feet wet with some practice. I am pretty much self taught in this and I hope these links will help get you started.

Here are some links to some sites to help with learning more:
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dcdn7mjg_72nh25vq
http://docs.google.com/View?id=ddnctvgt_216hf44mcfn

Here is a link to a blog which has some really good info on it especially the 'Quick Checklist' towards the bottom and then all the links provided there. http://tbarrett.edublogs.org/2009/10/21/introducing-google-docs-to-the-c...

Here are some links to some videos to help you with this:
Google Docs in Plain English: http://bit.ly/9hAa0L

Or, just go to the Google Channel or community at YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/Google
http://www.youtube.com/user/GoogleDocsCommunity

Here is a link to a quiz template you can use. http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AiXKkRApaS28dFJ4RlhmeVZNakptc3VP...

Just open the quiz template link. You will see the spreadsheet where the data will go once the students submit their quiz. Click on the 'Form' tab and then click on 'Go to live form' so you can see what the quiz will look like when your students go to take it. After viewing it, you can then make a copy of this form for yourself by clicking on 'File' and then 'Make a copy'. You will then see a copy of this form in your Google Docs. You can just rename it to be your 'master copy' and preserve the formatting of it. Then open it up, make another copy and rename it to be whatever quiz you want it to be. Once you have your quiz named, then open it up, click on 'Form' and then on 'Edit form'. It will open up in a new window and you can edit it from there. Play around with it and feel free to contact me. The videos links I provided will help tremendously with this too.

Wish you the best with it all and hope this helps,
Anita

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Gess Healey
Second Grade Teacher Public School

I am finishing my Masters Degree with fellow "live" cohort members. One of my last assignments, in lieu of a final reflection paper, was to advocate for NOT having the Lesley University branch programs be "reduced" to a series of online courses. NM is pretty big and I understand people feel isolated and need the online/outreach. I had never considered online courses all throughout my career (18 yrs.) I was delighted to find Lesley and,all cohort members agree that developing community that's encouraging and empathetic can only happen "live".

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