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Does skipping a grade help gifted students, or harm them?

It helps. It is pointless to teach a student material he or she already knows. We should advance gifted children to whatever grade matches their abilities.
44% (607 votes)
It can do both. Although it is preferable to keep students in their current grade, in rare cases, it is best to advance them.
36% (507 votes)
It hurts. Grade skipping puts social and emotional pressure on kids who may lack the maturity of their older classmates. We should keep gifted students with their peers but provide them with enrichment inside and outside the classroom.
17% (236 votes)
None of the above. (Comment below.)
3% (41 votes)
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My son just moved from second

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My son just moved from second grade to third grade. The school has no clue what to do with him. He reads at a 9th grade reading level and he is seven. Children who are gifted are often more advanced than their age classmates and will do better in the next grade because they are more like equals to them. Your son is being asked by the teacher then there is a reason. What are his reading and math levels at, are they at 5th grade, or are they at 4th grade, or are they well beyond? This is what you need to know to make this decision. When my son started school they wanted to place him directly into 1st grade because he knew everything in kinder. But, I said no because he had not learned how to write yet. He had memorized all the letter sound and number but he could not write any of them. He knew all of the numbers as well. Now in 2nd grade his behavior became a serious problem when he started getting extremely bored in class. He was leaving the class because he knew the material already. Acting out became an every day event. Then they had him him third grade for part of the day, and his behavior really improved. He was engaged in the classroom.

parent of a gifted child

You are right. its definitely

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You are right. its definitely very complex for the child as well as the parent of the child who seems to be helpless in engaging the child with challenges. I am facing this problem from the time my child was in pre-k. Now he is going to grade 4th this year.In grade 1 he was tested by the school and told that he can easily cross grade 5 ,but skipping that much is not healthy and skipping one grade is of no use as he will be bored again . He is the odd one in his class. He doesn't want anybody to notice him so he tries to hide his knowledge. He dreads going to school .
I would really appreciate if you would give me some insight in what to do next.

Kids should move on

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As a child, I was recommended by teachers 3 years to be advanced and my mother held me back. We had a dysfunctional family life (divorce, father died), so she thought it not best to add any additional stress. She also felt that as one of the smallest children in my regular peer class, I would be very insecure with older children. She was probably right, but ultimately, I skipped my senior year to go to college on an honor's program. While this was my choice and I am glad I did it, it saddened me to miss out on such an important year. I often look back and think it would have been better to skip an elementary grade.

Now I am full circle with my own child. She is very advanced and will get nothing out of the upcoming school year if she isn't advanced or I cannot spend a huge amount of time educating her myself. Unlike me, she is the tallest kid in her class, so I am not worried about that. Moreover, I think socially she will be much better off if she is advanced. She does not relate well to kids her own age. She is in a completely different developmental stage and enjoys playing with older children more. I want to pursue this earlier rather than later, as it seems the older the child is when he/she is advanced, the more negative consequences there will be. I am just trying to research the best way to approach this with the school.

It is definitely a complex

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It is definitely a complex issue, and, as a student who was started early (Kindergarten at 4) and skipped a grade (1st), I can tell you that there are some serious problems with skipping grades. The school initially proposed I be skipped from 1st to 5th, and I am thankful that they did not.

First, the problem is often not that the student has already mastered the material being taught, but that they learn the material more quickly. That is going to be a problem no matter how far you skip the student. Even in high school and at the Ivy League university I attended, I found that I was frequently bored, had to make very little effort to learn the material, and often spent more of my time teaching the material to my peers than learning it myself. Skipping the material altogether deprives your child of the opportunity to learn what is being taught (I still don't know the state capitals), though they may (or may not) pick it up in their later grades. Optimally, a grouping of the students by the rate at which they learn, or allowing them to progress through material more individually would solve these problems, but most school districts (particularly public schools like the ones I attended) will not be so flexible, and private school is not a feasible option for many parents.

Additionally, the social concern is a valid one. It may be less of an issue for girls, who I am led to believe mature faster than males, but given that social groups in grade school are often largely gender segregated, it may not be entirely alleviated. In my personal experience, I did not at the time perceive the disparity in social/interpersonal maturity, but when I look back at the interactions I had with my peers I have to laugh. In many situations I simply did not see or understand the intentions and motivations of my peers in the least as their motivators simply did not exist for me yet. This was less of a problem by the end of high school, but that is still about 10 years of being out of the loop.

Furthermore, as a student athlete (I was recruited and played DI soccer briefly), I can say that things would have been much easier for me if I'd had more time to develop as a player before college recruitment started.

That said, I'm not sure the public school system could have helped me anyways. When I joined MENSA at 12 (I liked doing their brain teasers), my IQ tested at over 149 (high enough that the test is inaccurate - though I didn't care enough to take the special high-range test). I didn't study for the LSAT (essentially a logic and reading comprehension exam) and made a 178, which is about the top 200 of 50,000 people who take it and attended a top 14 law school with a full scholarship. If your child is performing similarly, I would seek out a school environment that places him or her with similarly intelligent children if at all possible. I believe that being able to interact with peers like that would have given me significantly greater incentives to learn and perform better (as opposed to being disliked for doing well - by high school I never raised my hand for anything or ever gave answers in class as I quickly learned that doing so only made my peers disdainful).

Why are kids sorted by date of manufacture???

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I skipped a grade because I was bored out of my mind in school. It helped a bit, but it wasn't enough. To me sorting kids by age makes no sense. It also makes no sense when people say it will be difficult socially. It's not. I'm interested in connecting with people who share my passions, talents, and interests. They could be 8, 18, my age or 78 I don't care now and I didn't care then. I don't think it helps children socially when they are artificially placed with others their age. That's not life.

There are many schools (some are called democracy or freedom schools) where students come together by passion. Students learn to socialize across age and come together about topics of interest. Additionally there are many children who are unschooled who are free to learn and connect with people of all ages.

If we take down the artificial constructs of grouping by age and grade, this ceases to become a question. In it's place let socialization happen the way it should. People who care about similar things come together for real purposes to do what they care about. When students get to do real work they care about for real purposes, the socialization and learning take care of themselves.

ALL FOR IT

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I was born in 1984 and went to 2 different elementary schools in miami from 2nd through 5th grade. 3 days a week South Miami and the other 2 days a week Sunset Elementary to engage with other gifted students and do advanced tasks. while at south miami i "subject skipped" math and english. that was ridiculous and i wish i could have just stayed at one school and skipped a whole grade. i always did better than 85% of the class without even trying - which was probably why i skipped so much of high school.. I WISH MY PARENTS WOULD HAVE SKIPPED ME A GRADE!!!

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My mom wants me to skip the 8th grade [I'm in the 7th grade] brcause with most of my work in class I am honest to god bored. While other students are reading Percy Jackson and the lightning thief [its a great book] I amd reading David Copperfield or the Scarlet Letter. Math isnt my best subject but I am in all extended classes including math so it isnt a big problem. I dont know if I want to go to high school so soon, because whileI may be mature enough to handle it i dont know if I want to really move on for the fear of not understanding the material. I have alot of upperclassmen friends, and school is super easy but lets be honest, Im not lazy but and I enjoy a challenge but high school math freaks me out.

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Thank you so much say that. You took everything in my thought and make it a voice for me. I just decided to place my son back into his kindergarten class after his first grade teach made it such a big issues about the socialization and that my son is not yet mature enough eventhough he reading is about first grade level and has S+'s in all the academic area. I feel like the teacher was not doing her part in working with my son.

Re: Skipping Grades

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As a person who went through first grade in two weeks and entered second grade because I desired to learn cursive writing early, the act of being skipped went unnoticed by me until I entered high school. When I was a junior, I felt much more comfortable with the sophomores or seniors, not with the juniors. In fact, at one point I became so disenchanted with those in my grade, that I stopped speaking to them for a month. I felt completely out of sync with them.

I feel that skipping grades might be a positive things to do, but it should be done only if a student is given counseling to understand the adverse feelings within themselves that might be encountered.

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In addition, I believe that parents should wait to consider advancing a child grades until a child is older and can have input in the matter. I believe that the child should be on a level where they can exercise a sound level of maturity and be able to outweigh the pros and cons of skipping ahead a grade or more.