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10th grade Honors II English and AP Language teacher in Jacksonville, FL

RE: Kids in the gap

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I teach in a magnet school wherein the students are expected to have had exposure to more complex texts. However, the school must take in "opportunity scholars"--students from failing schools. Some of these students can barely read much less handle our all-AP class load.
I'm catching students up by teaching-gasp-grammar. In context, of course. Once I know everyone has a working knowledge of subjects and verbs, we focus on complex sentences and how to determine meaning of __sentences__first of all.The opening sentence of the Declaration of Independence has five dependent clause. If students get lost in the structure, they won't understand the entire text.
I'm not one for teaching grammar. In my former private school, 7-9 focused on grammar and 10th was a review year. However, in public schools, this isn't the case (in Duval County, at least). So far, this seems to be helping everyone get to a common point.

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I agree resources are scarce for most teachers who want to introduce more complex text in their classrooms. Another obstacle is differentiating instruction and assuring text complexity. In my district, teachers and administrators are still working to quantify and qualify exactly what "more rigorous" means, and how to practically increase rigor in our classrooms.

I have a comment I want to share from my personal experience. I went to private school in the 80's, and I had an above average English teacher. I learned a lot when he challenged us with a writing assignement for which we had to write a professional critique of a very famous local painting by a very famous painter. For this assignment we had the specific task to read primary informational resources-in this case these were original writings by famous art critics on the painting. We had to read the original primary articles and understand them because we had to write a final report without plagiarizing. When I went to college I took an Expository Writing class. The college professor asked us to write about the painting I had studied three years before in high school, this time the professor did not require a research about it, just to write our comment on the painting. I guess my essay was so thorough that she suggested I had plagiarized from some source. I explained to her that this was not the first time I did the writing excercise. Apparently my memory was too good to remember so many details I had read three years before. I guess the point is that sometimes a good challenge works. Give the student permission to take charge of their education, by taking charge of a good challenge. Another one: Sometimes the anwer is a simple one. Beware of too much complication. LET'S GO TO THE LIBRARY!!!!

I agree resources are scarce

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I agree resources are scarce for most teachers who want to introduce more complex text in their classrooms. Another obstacle is differentiating instruction and assuring text complexity. In my district, teachers and administrators are still working to quantify and qualify exactly what "more rigorous" means, and how to practically increase rigor in our classrooms.

7th Grade Language Arts teacher from NJ

Thank you for this information

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Thank you for the information about complex texts. Your suggestions are helpful. It can be difficult, to say the least, to find reading materials for students. There are many factors that contribute to deciding what articles, and novels to choose for students. Typically students do not read on grade level, which can make finding complex texts to be a challenge. Especially when standardized tests require students to read above their reading levels. Thankfully, you make several great suggestions that will help educators make sure that reading materials challenge students. Thanks again.

7th & 8th grade teacher from NJ

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Thank you for sharing this information. I found your post informative and helpful. This is definitely something that is not easy to address. It is difficult to find the right texts to use with our students that are grade level appropriate when there are so many different factors to consider. It is something that takes time on the teacher’s part. However, I think you mention some valuable guidelines and questions that we need to examine when selecting texts to use in our lessons and units. Thanks again for your helpful ideas and information.

8th grade ELA teacher, Sumter,SC

What about the kids in the "gap"?

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I am a proponent of Common Core and am excited about teaching the standards and the more complex texts, but I am concerned about my students who fall into the gap created in students who have already missed some essential text decoding skills that the CC anticipates in its rigor. I teach 8th and 9th grade Honors students, so my students tend to be more skilled at interpreting literature than lower academic level students, but what happens when these kids are suddenly bombarded with Thomas Paine when they have no experience with classical formal language? The trend I have been complaining about for years towards leaving the classics behind as outdated dinosaurs is now going to bite us in the rear. If students reach 9th grade without ever having read a complex text, how can 9th grade teachers slow down their pace to get the kids caught up with necessary foundation skills? CC assumes certain skill levels by high school, as it should, but what about the kids who weren't exposed to these skills prior to adoption of CC in a particular state? Anyone have suggestions for that?

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Thank you for sharing this valuable information about complex texts. I am a curriculum specialist in Texas. Even though we have not adopted the Common Core standards, our standards still require students to be exposed to more complex texts in all genres. I will be able to use this information as I analyze texts and make suggestions in our curriculum.

2nd grade teacher in South Range Schools in Ohio

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Thank you for clarifying the text complexity issue. My colleagues and I are in the process of choosing new books to use with our students to meet the demands of the Common Cre Standards. We already use lexile levels, but I am interested in checking out the Flesch-Kincaid and Dale Chall measurements for text complexity. I also want to look into the Norman Webbs Depth of Knowledge Levels that another teacher discussed in her post. After reading your blog, it has inspired me to dig out my Bloom's Taxonomy to help plan reading activities that will elicit critical thinking. I agree with you that educators must provide complex texts and know how to appropriately scaffold the learning for all students. As an elementary teacher, it is critical to realize that the age of the children I teach can lead to over scaffolding. The new reading standards will serve as a reminder to push my students to reach higher levels of achievement, while encouraging more student responsibility and independence in their learning.

Eighth Grade Teacher in NYC

As teachers we only want what

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As teachers we only want what is best for all of our students. Here is the question. How can we take text that is challenging, rigorous and distinct, and differentiate it to meet all the needs of our students? As you said above,our students come to us with different reading abilities. So the challenge is finding materials that will meet the requirements of the Common Core Standards as well as the abilities of our students. This is not easy. This takes time. I find it easier to take the reading material that meets Common Core, give it to all students, yet break it down in different ways for others. Is this being rigorous? I am not sure.

Eighth Grade Teacher in NYC

As teachers we only want what

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As teachers we only want what is best for all of our students. Here is the question. How can we take text that is challenging, rigorous and distinct, and differentiate it to meet all the needs of our students? As you said above,our students come to us with different reading abilities. So the challenge is finding materials that will meet the requirements of the Common Core Standards as well as the abilities of our students. This is not easy. This takes time. I find it easier to take the reading material that meets Common Core, give it to all students, yet break it down in different ways for others. Is this being rigorous? I am not sure.

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