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English, Spanish, ESL teacher pursuing degree in Educational Leadership

This reminds me of English

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This reminds me of English teachers' insistence that students memorize and be tested on the conventions of MLA format. Memorizing MLA format isn't a skill that students need. Memorization of important facts and skills happens naturally when the skills or knowledge are important, interesting, or necessary. Students ought to be assessed on what they can do with information, not their ability to access it.

Elementary school teacher in Arizona

I hope you are right about the tests of the future!

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While taking our last state test I saw a boy in my class, an English language learner, who was obviously upset and struggling over a math question. When I went over to him to see what was wrong, he whispered to me, "I forgot what this word means but I could figure it out if I could look it up on my math website." It saddened me to know that this kid's score would not reflect what was really important---that he knew how to find the answer in the real world! It has always struck me as ridiculous that as teachers, we spend all year teaching students how to find the best information, guiding them in the use of tools to help them become critical thinkers and build their own knowledge, yet at testing time we have to strip down all the posters and take away all the tools and have them rely only on their own memories. I hope you are right about the tests of the future!

Senior English Teacher, EL Coordinator, Life-Time Learner

Yay!

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You have successfully articulated exactly how I've felt for the past year. I absolutely agree with you on every point. The challenge for educators is to relearn how to teach. We can now teach on a deeper level than ever before by allowing our students to access facts/data with their mobile devices. Our problem as teachers is to search out new learning outcomes and teach students how to utilize their pocket information quickly and successfully.

Tutored child chemically sensitive via online education

Tutoring via internet with traditional educators.

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I think they are on the right track. As I was Julie's home advocate, tutoring with support from a traditional teacher using the internet vehicle I totally believe we should be transitioning earlier. I also believe that another vital ...aspect of education needs to be addressed. That is the incorporation of vocational, hands on immersion into a subject in which the student wishes to pursue. It does take one parent home as I was but knowing the level of education is not there for most parents this transition will be difficult. I am, and can tutor in most high college level classes. Lawrence was 1st in his countries mathmatics and did his matriculation through Cambridge University in England while he was in grade 13. Few children have this level of tutoring at their 24 hr beck and call. But interestingly enough the online school did make their teachers easily and generously accessible. Ipads and so forth are fantastic for the teachers and kids. Jul's was able to travel and show her danes around the country five days a week and even be in France while doing her work. A three month class could be completed in one month with test completed and always checking in daily first and last thing to see if there were any projects in addition to regular work. The teachers had a fantastic syllabus and provided expected due dates. You were never given a lower grade for working ahead. To me, this is the dream education. Presently all of her college work has been A+ work. Her tests were the regular ACT / SAT and passed the OGT for Ohio with higher % then those who had attended a traditional high school with AP classes.

Ed.M. in Mind, Brain, and Education at HGSE

Very interesting, thank you.

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Very interesting, thank you. Do you think that this could result in students remembering more facts compared to the rote-memorization environment, since they are now presented in an urgent, relevant context?

Life Skills Support Teacher

Sure, Why Not?

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I suppose it follows a logical thread, Dr. Willis, that after your generation of dumbed-down video gamers have reached a state of cognitive inertia their dopamine addicted brains wouldn't be able to handle any assessment that requires immediate recall of memorized facts.

We must not make anything too hard, should we? Everything must be FAST, EASY, and FUN, right?

Google Glasses

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I think Google's Project Glass https://plus.google.com/111626127367496192147/posts
supports your statement very well. As soon as Google Glasses are publicly sold (in about a year or two) we will have students in our classrooms with information delivered to their eyes according to what the student sees. I can easily imagine a test page that a student is holding being scanned, recognized, processed (by something like WolframAlpha.com) and a solution being delivered to the student's eyes before the student turns the page to look at the next problem.

I plan to try giving tests in my Calculus course this fall in a computer classroom with internet available. I would be glad to learn other teachers' experience about giving such tests.

6th grade LA/SS 8th grade SS

To function and think frely

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To function and think frely some information needs to be memorized. I don't want my doctor following step-by-step direction from hias ipad during surgery. Although some memorized material certainly could be looked up. I think the more important issue is revisiting the role of testing. Are we just collecting points/scores, or are we truly demonstrating skills and knowledge.

BizMusician

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Well stated, and a message that needs to be heard. Also underscores the urgency of reversing the trend of reducing budgets for Arts and Music Ed. More on this topic at my blog:
"Pablo Picasso, Charlie Parker, Creativity, and the Standardized Test."
http://bizmusician.wordpress.com/2011/03/04/test-scores-and-non-testable...
Keep fighting the good fight!

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